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7:37 pm
April 17, 2020

void
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Post edited 9:17 am – April 18, 2020 by void


Can't seem to find the bestiary lists, just the version 14 and 13 main pages that explain the bestiary. Any chance I could get the link to the bestiary lists?


I think I'm going to stick with RP battles, but it would be good to have all that info and for setting up the battles. And for knowing how much EXP, gil, and AP to reward myself with (since I'll probably just be in solo battles for now).


I already made the mistake of involving an enemy from the Remake, and not the original. Plus they're Sector 5 enemies and I'm in Sector 1… making me think I should either redo the quest or just write in a little fluff about them being new units. Thankfully it's just a quest and not a battle, so it probably shouldn't make too much of a difference.


All that being said… is any content from the Remake allowed on Fortress?

11:02 pm
April 17, 2020

dystopia
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Regrettably, along with the materia listings, the bestiary as it was on the final version of FF7 Fortress was lost in the MSN Groups migration to Multiply. At the time on groups there was a limit to 300 pages or something as I recall, and so we did these kind of things as well as member profiles on seperate sites to account for that limit. When groups closed I did the transfer thing to try to backup the content and thought that it had been successful but found out later on that some of these were not. The closest thing I have to a complete bestiary is from the original 2003 version of the site and I've never actually fully archived it here because the HTML is such a mess that each page requires a good bit of editing to fix the formatting to what it originally was. What sucks is how much work Saiyen and I (mostly Saiyen) put into that bestiary, with more detailed stats, attacks, and images for every enemy. I wish I had that somewhere.

As for RPing, I haven't heard back from anyone yet, I'm going to send out some more emails this weekend. I'd like to get a story RP going if I can find a couple people. Unsure of how I'll incorporate the remake changes into the overall story concept if that does happen. Worst case you and I could just do some RPing one on one for the hell of it.


2:16 am
April 18, 2020

void
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Post edited 9:18 am – April 18, 2020 by void


Ah, I was wondering what had happened to the members page too. I do remember there being many profiles at one time. How close were the stats and things to the original game? If I remember right, they were pretty close, if not the actual stats themselves. Would it be possible to use a bestiary from a legit FF7 source then? At least to get the stats to see what we're able to battle and what rewards we'd get anyway. If this is the case, then can we also do the same for materia, since I believe that was all set to the classic game's stats too?


I'm down for a story RP, and if it's just the two of us then that's cool. I feel like we could introduce some of the Remake elements into Fortress through some kind of RP like that too. Like we could discover the introduction of the slug-rays in an RP, and see them start to be deployed in Sector 5. Maybe even another quest to get access to the VR, stuff like that perhaps?

4:03 pm
April 18, 2020

dystopia
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Oh yeah we had something on the order of 200 or so profiles for the individual beasts, I used all the original stats from the game as well as the overly complicated actual system for dealing damage lol. At the time our chatroom scripts were all the rage and would handle all that math. Same went for materia, I have some of the materia pages still, they're just from the previous version of the site but not as rough as the stuff from the original version. 

As for the RP, I still think I can probably find another person or two to join us in the story, and I need to think over some plot stuff anyway. 

4:27 pm
April 18, 2020

void
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Yeah there was a time where all I wanted to do were the overly complicated stat battles haha, I think that's what initially attracted me to Fortress. That and the cool layouts that kept popping up. But it has been like 10 or more years since I've been here, and I've gotten used to just doing just word-based RP posts since then. I like that you kept all the legit stats and combat system too, even if it is complicated. Still makes Fortress feel better than everywhere else. So if I were to start an RP battle at this point, would I need to copy/paste the whole monster profile in still? If so, can I just use one from any particular FF7 database that you prefer? That way I can start knocking out some little battles and get some decent EXP, gil, and AP growth going.

Looking forward to the RP, even if it takes us some time to get going. I'll be doing some quests and battles on the side til then. Maybe I can get myself to at least level 2 before we start.

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